Wider Worldview: Ami Thakkar on Living Abroad

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Hi, Amy. How are you? Hi, Megan. How does the sound, by the way? I'm on bluetooth right now. You sound

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That's sound wise. Am I good. You're good. You sound great. Awesome.

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This is actually my first time using bluetooth on the app. So I just wanted to make sure.

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Well, it sounds great. That's a good good thing to know. Yes. That was scared to do it before. So

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how are you feeling?

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Good. I'm excited. I have to say I'm very much looking forward to hearing your story. I've been hearing a lot of ...you

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interview people. So I can't wait to ...I okay ...you're

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excited to be a guest rather than having that the questions.

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Yeah. It's it's a different

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experience for sure. I haven't ...I've done one podcast

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as a guest and

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real my time nervous I would be being a guest, but ...because you wanna do, we know you wanna do well. So ...Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But it's good practice, both ways. So

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Yes. Absolutely.

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Yeah. And Really, I'm just ...I

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can't wait. I'm like, rear indigo. I I wanna start this a little bit early.

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Yeah he thanks for joining us, and thanks for stopping.

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Yeah. We're gonna be getting started in a few minutes officially, but,,

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like, really excited I

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to top right in, but so I don't know. I'm ...I'm very much

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excited to

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I'll I'll basically kinda rewind it and then i'll do my intro. So sure.

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Authority, you're getting behind the scenes look.

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Thank you always. For being here and joining us and

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excited to have you ...I

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mean, I can't wait

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I know. Like I said, is gonna be ...it ends up feeling like, you know, two friends talking on the phone, really. So this is fun.

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I am so thrilled ...I ...you know, this is I in full transparency. This is my fourth podcast episode. So

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I am

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very ...yeah.

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They've been ...it's been a fun learning experience.

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See

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Stephanie. Hi, Sue. How are you?

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Or very excited high Susan.

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We're really looking for it to getting this kicked off. So

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why don't we ...there's no time like the presence. So we may as well though.

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Let's do it. Let's do it. Hi, everyone. Welcome to wider Worldview, a podcast exploring the power. Of travel and how it change the world, sparked new ideas, foster different perspectives, and catalyst curiosity and life on learning. I your host Megan, I'm a marketer by day, a passionate travel journalist when I can fit it in and a lifelong learner always.

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I believe the power of travel getting outside you're known to make the world better place, join us for conversations from entrepreneurs, educators and explorers and get inspired to tap the travel as an experiential learning an empathy building tool.

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Today, I am so excited to introduce you to Tommy Tucker,

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fellow fireside cider, a producer and host of her very own podcast tucker out with amy,

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Tucker, where she interviewed South Asian trail brothers all over the world. Welcome, I'm you we're so excited to have you. Yay.

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Hi, Megan. Thank you so much for having me and

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I love

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talking all things travel. So this is my jam. I'm oh we're good. Well, that makes to both of us. So

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yeah. We're gonna wax poetic on travel and all of the exciting things that i can teach you.

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Yeah.

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thank you, everybody. And we're going, first of all, we wanted to kinda

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thanks

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I love them. I'm never gonna meet the sound of fact I love them. I know.

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So I, you have talked

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to a lot

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of people in.

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You just celebrated your fiftieth podcast cast episode and weird your first partnership.

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Congratulations.

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That is a huge milestone.

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Thank you so much. Yeah. It was

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very exciting. It all came to good in the same week and I was like, wow. This is I'm actually doing something. It's actually growing. Yay. The universe signs, I think Right. Right? Right.

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So.

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I've love listening to your wide a variety of voices, but, selfish officially,

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I'm really excited to hear more of yours. So

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we're gonna get right into it, and I was listening. So I listening to an interview that you did on your podcast of Ar Io.

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Yeah. And

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she for anybody who may not be aware, which I was certainly not before I listened to your episode, She's India's famous blogger and media vocal,

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and you got to talking about moving around a lot.

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And at the time, you had said that you your self had seven times, and your kids have moved three times, and you've actually lived in eleven different cities.

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You lived five abroad and six in the Us, three different countries

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besides the Us. You an the exchange student. You've look twice in India, and do buy I've exhausted listening to this..

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Yeah.

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The perfect case study of experiential travel.

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So ...yeah,

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I I what about it? Yeah. Even when I was writing to you, I was like, oh my god. I not believe that I have lived in eleven cities. This is insane. I don't even think I've counted until now, but

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Yeah. It's been quite a right.

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And, honestly, I feel like this is the first time. I'm

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really going through that journey out loud. With shocking I'm surprise. I haven't like, written a book by about it by now. I would be you're

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absolutely should

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I know Susan is in the audience. She could probably do a lot with this. I just.

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Susan I'm antonio girl. Yes. For.

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But I have to say that this brings me a lot of relief because I I don't know quite why.

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I don't have a family quite yet, but I know that's, you know, at some point on the horizon, but I've always had this kind of weird unfold fear

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of travel sort of going away. When we have family.

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And I just ...I feel like I've subliminal heard it from all sides, but you're proving that that is totally wrong. So right you tell us a little bit about your experience growing up, moving around, evolving through so many different places.

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Right. So actually growing up, you know, I grew up in a very kind of conservative strict, South Asian household,

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and very stable household meaning. We didn't move at all. So I grew up in Houston and State in Houston

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my whole life up until college,

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then

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as any eighteen year old itch to leave their house. I did as well.

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And I I honestly ...it's shocking to say this, but I honestly never thought I would leave Texas just because my family,

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you know, we're very tight and everyone once wanted to stay close together, but something In me was always itching.

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And so

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went to Austin for for undergrad and went back to Houston, worked at N Ron, which obviously didn't work out. But No. Back ...you I thought i was astute, my family,

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again, the itch came back, and I ended up moving to India for a year in between

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my days and my law school days.

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And this was the year I decided to try to become a volley with backup dancer.

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I've heard.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And I did it. I lied tour for six months.

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I

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worked

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Alan radio. There answering,

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like, collars

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phones and just playing

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whatever music I felt like because it's two Am sessions,

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and

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then got called back

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by my parents, and also by grad school, and then I went to law school in Chicago. I just knew ...I

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what ...I wasn't after that year. I think living abroad, I knew I had

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two experience another place outside of what I was used to outside of my comfort zone.

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And nothing too crazy, but Then I moved to Chicago

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for law school. And then once I was in Chicago living there,

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after that, I was just like, I just ...I just knew how to keep traveling. Something in me was like, I just have to keep

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trying new places as much as possible because I like you

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I was like, once I get married have kids. I'm screwed. I can't do anything.

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So after she chicago I moved to New York, and that's where I'm met my now husband.

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And, again, each play, Chicago, New York, it's it's a the growing experience. It's growing. You're learning each time you move somewhere in new. There's such a different places, you know?

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And I got lucky

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marrying someone that was pretty much like me in terms of worldview

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And the first thing he said was, like, you know, what? I wanna live around the world. I want stamps to be in our passport. ...I wanna our passport

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to be full of stamps.

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And so

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in that way, I got super lucky because, obviously, if you marry someone that doesn't like travel as a whole different story.

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And so

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through his work,

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he works at Pepsi.

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He actually asked to move a abroad.

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And that's where our travel started again, and we lived and we went back to India. So this time, I went back with him threw his job

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as an ex pat

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and lived in Delhi and Bangalore.

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For three years,

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then Dubai for two years.

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And Dubai, we had our first child,

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which was very interesting as the whole there story.

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Yes. It was very, very interesting experience.

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And then moved back to Dallas for a job. I to second kid bear,

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then move to Bento for his job, both kids ...with us there, obviously,

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and then now Run.

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And so

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Basically long story short, I think, obviously, marrying someone and or having a partner that was kind on the same page

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was a huge ...difference

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in, you know, one being able to travel and being able to explore the world.

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And then I always have the itch And so it was a great kind of combination of both. And then both of us in terms of parenting were pretty laid back. And so in terms of taking kids place is i obviously having a baby of abroad.

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We were both kind of, like, a little more lax about it and one our kids

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at to get go to kind of learn what it means to have changes and move around a little bit and get out of the comfort zone. You know? Absolutely

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Absolutely. I mean, getting out of the comfort zone. So going back to that getting outside your comfort zone,

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I think that

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at least in my personal experience,

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there can be a really big,

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like, mental roadblock block. And, of course, it is so complex. Right? It's ...can I ...do I have access? It's it's facility. It's privilege. It's ...do

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you have the means to do with you have this family, the structure to do ...it's all kinds of things. But it's kind of interesting because I picked up a couple of times he said, I I just knew. Right? I had this feeling.

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Right? Can you explain

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a little bit about maybe what that was like. Like, how did you know you're kind of in in ...you needed to just kinda upper yourself?

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I just I think, in Innate, I I'm always curious. I was always curious I was always thinking, like, I need to explore

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I just always had it in me to want to explore more.

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And then you make a good point. Right? I was also able to do a lot of this

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because I had a lot of support. Whether that's through family, with a about financially, whether that was through my own, you know, schooling or job.

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And so I was very lucky in that way,

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and then get it to travel again, abroad because my husband and I when we were abroad travel to thirty one different countries and almost in five years.

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And, of course, again,

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you know, I had to support to do that.

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But, yeah, I think, you know, you know, part of it, honestly was, like,

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it's funny that you mentioned the kids thing because part of it was. Okay. I'm gonna have kids, you know, at some point. So

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also, that inch to go everywhere and do everything four they they came

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was was part of it. So it's kind of a combination of circumstance.

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My innate, like, desire to really explore as much as possible.

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And then that fear of having a starting a family and, like, being stuck in in place.

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And so. Yeah. All that things

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I feel it. Right? Right. Not,

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Megan. It's ...yeah. It's it's not what you think I promise you.

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Well, I love It seems like everybody ...I feel like there's this

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very

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strong just

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anxiety and tr

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And because I mean, a move like that seems like, you know, you're gonna have to do a lot of planning, and then I think maybe sometimes I do it to myself. The extra planning just creates some anxiety. It's like, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be what you actually do it.

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Right. Right. So what would you say just out of that experience of living?

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Having starting a family getting married, it's starting a family, what was, like, one of the hardest

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things that maybe you experienced.

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Yeah. I mean, look, I I know this ...yeah. What I'm talking it sounds like all amazing and glamorous.

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But ...but it's not. Right? Like, it's lots ...you know, I was ...the first thing that come ...the first word that comes to mind is lonely.

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It definitely can be very low.

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Even with a partner.

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You know, And I ...and before I got married, I was I had moved a couple times

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on my own. And

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I think lonely is is one of those things that you have to kind of expect at times

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definitely many nights of crying. Sometimes like, what am I doing is this the right move is this crazy?

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I I think with ...with all with ...with moving living, whether living up broad of traveling, there comes a lot of highs and lows that you have to deal with.

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Which, you know, that's hard. Right? It gets harder and hard to deal what that as you get older, honestly.

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And I I think

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that was that's amazing and. There's fear of, like, Am I gonna make ...am I gonna belong here? Am I gonna ...and I'll again, depends on ...if we're talking about living a broader of traveling,

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And so

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I would think that, like, you know,

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really just being able because, like, the reason why I feel like a lot of people don't take the lead live abroad is because the comfort zone of having their circle of friends, which is super important, you know?

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So Yes. Do really quickly? Because I know, you know, if we have a lot of grounds to cover. Yeah. And everybody, thank you so much for joining in, and we're going to open it up for since q and a toward the end. So feel free to continue to use the chat by clicking the right

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right hand react button

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picking an emoji and then typing some text in there, but we will open it enough. So, yeah, do you have any

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one quick piece of advice for making friends abroad

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or or outside of your known.

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Making friends are abroad. I mean, you really

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have to put yourself out there. I know that's an obvious statement.

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In fever again, even though I did go with my husband, like, I was alone most of time he was seeing He were doing this thing. He was, you know, gone

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six Am m six pm, Like, so in a way, I had to kind of reach out on my own. Yeah. I mean, there's so many

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nowadays is in any kind of country you go to. There's so many resources for expat. There's there is so many resources out there just because of the Internet.

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And so you ...yeah. Really putting yourself out there and networking. Like, I would not work my fishy off on everything, And sometimes you would feel like, oh my god. I what doing actually stupid.

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But you can't. And that's part of ...that's the whole process

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of getting out of your comfort zone and feeling silly and kinda feeling like oh my god. This is do or people gonna think I'm crazy or ...but the thing is the beautiful thing is about living a ride or traveling,

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you're going to find your people. They're going to be people there that are going through this same things as you.

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And the bonds you make, whether that's a tablet. You're filing for a month or for a year

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are so strong. Like, some of my closest friends now are people that That I probably hung out with for a year, but we went through that intense

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travel period or living a broad period together, and it just turns you so much closer.

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Absolutely.

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So what the things, you know,

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the ...the whole aspect of

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growing up in so many different places

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what do you think was one of the most

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unique things you took away from that experience

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comparatively

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to maybe people who spend a majority of their life in one place that maybe they don't necessarily get exposed to.

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I mean, I think one of the basic things is appreciation for different cultures,

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and even yeah, different cultures

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within the Us. Right? Like,

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I ...you know,

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I think the biggest kind of

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education for me recently was living in Arkansas.

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Right? Like, so, I mean, I'm, ...obviously, I'm an American and I know I've lived here my whole life,

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but our consulting different culture, And I

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made some of my best girlfriends there.

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And they all had very different points of views and I politically,

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and mean, you name it., You know?

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I would have never thought in a million years, I would be close to these people

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with such different views. And so it really does, like, it helps you grow up a little bit and mature and, like,

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just calm down. And and just be like, you know what?

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Have a conversation. We're not. We're all pretty much the same. You know? Absolutely. And valerie, thank you so much for tuning in. Yes. So important to travel and understand different people. People from you different from you. And yeah since she lived in five cities since high school, very eye opening

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Wow.

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Guys. That's awesome. Yeah. I I cannot agree more. I think just under seeing other people the way they live, I think it's so fascinating that you were saying, you know, I made friends of people who

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political news,

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The religious views anything that you maybe be just wouldn't have because you had this ...you ...I'm making generalization,

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but perhaps being surrounded by an echo chamber,

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right kind difficult.

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So I feel like I mean, look, I just feel like your world gets a little bit larger once you start traveling or if you have the chance to live abroad, like,

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how to make friends of stranger. But that's like a like

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...it's like you're learning a new kind of thing. You know? It's I mean,, it's ...I feel like travel is so complimentary to experimental mental learning. I I know we talked about that, but, like,

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you

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you learn how you you learn about cultural sensitivity, you know, self awareness,

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social capability, Like, all this stuff that you definitely test yourself on or don't really know where you stand on. Like, you really

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learn about yourself so much more when you travel. Yes. And that could be a whole another episode is talking about, you know, the things that we learn in a traditional educational system

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versus the things, and

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Gave Tally actually was talking about talent knowledge, which is this knowledge that you pick up that you don't really even know that you're learning

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and there's so many of those soft skills that you just kind of absorb of, like, oh, using hand gestures or or facial expressions to communicate when you don't necessarily understand the language.

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Right? Could be island, Like, smile, how important just smiling is because that ...sometimes the only thing you can do to communicate and exactly that like, literally does like says at all right there, just as smile. And, like, I don't know. I I I think for me, also, like,

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I am now after, you know, we're still

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moving around a little bit, the like, looking back in my time abroad,

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I'm reflecting a lot more about what I learned

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know in those five years in in those in tablet in dirty one countries and

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feel like yeah was a whole other education you know? Absolutely.

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Thank you again, everybody for tuning in. We will be opening up soon for questions. So feel free to use the chat. For ...in the next couple of minutes invite yourself up and ask how any questions that you have about living abroad or anything I'm gonna ...I'm gonna

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close it out with one question. It's kind of a dual sided one.

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Okay. Out of all the places

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Where was your favorite place that you lived and which one made the biggest impact of?

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I'm gonna give you an annoying answer.

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I think, honestly, this ...when I look back at everything, I think I was at

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each place was a perfect fit for me at that phase of life.

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And so

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I don't think I could enjoyed,

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you know, my four years in Dallas

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as much as I did when I had those to my two, my kids were too, like, one and four, You know, the perfect time for me to kinda be surrounded my family in friends and not have to go out there and meet new people.

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I don't think I would have enjoyed living in Dubai as much with little kids

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because we got to, like, literally hop on planes every weekend. And explore the world and then explore like the middle east, which, you know, I got to go to Jordan, and I floated in in the in the red sea pregnant. Like, I would not have been able

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and I don't know I felt like each place was right for me at the right time.

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Impact wise, I was impacted deeply by India.

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Just because even though I am South Asian and my family's from there, I really really got to the country where my parents were from.

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And I got to know my grandparents,

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which was a big deal, of course, And I was there when they passed when two of the past.

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And so that was, you know, just

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very special couple of years for me.

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Again, Dubai, I got to, like, really understand the little east a little bit more, made a lot of

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no from friends.

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It each I'm telling you each area it was just amazing. Arkansas was amazing. Just ...I am of that. I ...not a place you're like, know I think that this ...hey

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...yeah.

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It just all everything made sense

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exactly

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when I was there where I was. So awesome.

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So now Amy, I'm I'm gonna sorry I'm yeah. Alright. So.

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I'm gonna take it home with a section called three travel take. So these are just supposed to be quick little one word answers.

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Again. Where was the first place you traveled outside of your quote unquote known?

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I we're talking about, like, when I'm a child kinda of drink or ...Yeah. It looks like,

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psychologically you're no So just like what you knew. I think you were like, whoa. This is difference. I think India when I was four.

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Oh, wow. I bet that. Right? Just

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I remember

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four five ish, I have ...like, big memories of it, but it was a shocker.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Where have you traveled that was different from what you expected?

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Different for, Bali. I was going to Bali

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what For my baby moon.

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I didn't expect to love it as much as I I I knew was cool, but we really got to ...we

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you a friend there. So we really got to know it in a different way.

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Yeah. It was this very ...and sorry. My ...probably one of my favorite trips was Japan.

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Take blown away, but we were there for three weeks. Just completely on my back. Well, fun fact, I don't know if this is gonna stick around or what, but I know that flights are

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pretty cheap right now to. So I oh my god.

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It is it is one of those fascinating

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places. I I would love

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And what is the best thing you've brought back from a trip, whether it was an idea, an object, even a relationship

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of recipes

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I'm was gonna say my first child.

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That's like great stephen here. Yeah.

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Got. We got pregnant with friends eyes.

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So she's I like her. I'll hang on to her.

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You know, you know, in our in our homes, we've had getting a lot of homes.

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Each of our homes has been filled with,

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we always buy some kind of art from each place.

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And so now our home in Connecticut, we probably have about twenty different art pieces from around the world.

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I love that. It kinda just tells her story And it's pretty cool. What's your favorite?

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We are this ...like,

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this ...it's four pieces of art and they're maps of

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for the cities you lived in in a very, like, cool the looking maps, and it just ...yeah. There's beautiful mass. We look at them. It's just kind of a cool

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reminder of

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where we've been and what we've been through together as a couple ...even,

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you know, my husband's travel more than I have. And so I just

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Yeah. It's kinda pulled up the wall tell stories. You know? Oh, a hundred percent. I ever regret a little bit not doing more to bring back

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you know,

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things. I guess, it it sounds silly when you say like that. But

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I I just kinda wish that we had brought back more artifacts. I said No. I I I get it I I

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because I think when you're there, you're like, oh no big deal. I'm not gonna get it too much as, you know, whatever. But I definitely am glad that we have these little tri everywhere. Because, again, it's a story memories. So you're like, oh, yeah. I did that. That's crazy. And

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I I had forgotten the mention Susan had said that she had ...she

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had traveled ...or lived abroad in Germany, but she was young and didn't necessarily remember it. So I thought that was interesting because you said your first known was when you went to India. Yeah Yeah..

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Four or five us yeah, something like I just I think India is

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is very heavy with the senses. And so it's talk it's hard to forget that place.

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Sure. And I I feel ...and I mean, with your children, have you seen, like,

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I I would imagine that the ...sooner

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you start experiencing things that are just super different, the more you're like, oh, Okay. Like, I'm going the flow. Have you found that? Yeah. Completely. I mean, I feel like even in the few moves, I've done with my kids. They're just a little bit more lax.

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I think being able to adapt to change is just so important

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in life in general. It's such a key thing to have because guess what?

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Nothing state. Nothing is forever. You know? And so moving around and traveling is just kind of helps you build to that build towards that. You know? So Oh, absolutely. And I wonder just the effects of

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continually. I'm always super interested in the psychology of things too. Right? Right.

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Wondering if constant exposure to change, like, what kind of a difference that would make to bring come or just the way that you think or react to things

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Right? Right? I see ...I I I do wonder about that with my kids because we are still moving around. I'm like, i'm I ...am I damaging them? Are they gonna hate me later or, like, is this a good thing? And I talked to so many

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exact couples that have these or kids, you know, many many times.

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And the one thing they keep saying, which I think we all know is as long as they feel stable at home, they have your support.

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They will be fine, You know, they'll adapt.

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What they like do a resilient. Alright they are.

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Really are ...And so ...yeah, I mean, we have a ...there's a very good chance we can move next year to Europe. And I mean, let's see what happens with the pandemic, but oh there there there already talk of that And so I'm I'm eventually preparing. Let's see. Let's see what happens I'm happening. I'm happy right now in Connecticut. I'm good. Yes.

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For everybody listening, thank you so much. This is the such a wonderful conversation. If you any questions for, please come up, invite yourself up on stage,

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and or just type him in the chat with the react button down in the right hand corner.

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I, are you ...I mean,

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can you tell us where you're thinking about, like, what region? Or ...oh, god. I know. I I just told him that I I would like ...I would always ...I've always wanted to live in London I think this is tough. You know, like, I'm already New york or basically. And so I feel like a just a city. I need to live in one in my life. So let's see. I mean, then, again, I'm also become, like, really used to serbia.

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Yeah.

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But our ...I'm embracing, you know, it's a it's nice To have kind of the piece and quiet right now after

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the past

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twenty two years of moving around. So Absolutely.

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So let me ask you because I'm a a Chicago.

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Yeah. And I I had to know I do wanna into a

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your your story, but where did you live in Chicago? And where was your favorite neighborhood?

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Oh, my god. I love chicago go some the best years of my life. I lived in Downtown. I went to Poly University for law school. Yep. So I lived in invite Ohio Clark.

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Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I just ...I

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lincoln in park. I love. I just loved everything about Chicago. Says a

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fantastic video Very sad to leave.

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But, yeah, that was it was my last school years, was also my single years, and

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it was just. Yeah. It's great. Are you there right now? We are. Yes. Okay.

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Loop. We've lived ...we've lived in, like, if I lived in, like a park, gold Coast

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yeah,

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kinda all over, but I make a point to take little field trips just in all the different neighborhoods because they're so many.

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My favorite little joint was this

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Ding live a bar called Street. I don't know if there.

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Have even been there? I have heard of it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I can imagine what it probably looks, like, it's not like, if I'd ...it probably looks like it had Covid a long time ago, but it was like, my favorite place

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in the world, and then I used to bar that lucky strike. Oh nice. Yeah. Yeah. So I just ...yeah. It's a great city.

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Awesome. Well, we have Troy up here. Hi, Troy. Welcome.

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Well, hello.

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Thanks for having Me

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chief.

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At Aaron patrick.

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Hi, Troy. It's it's it's pronounced on.

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Me. Okay. Yeah. Wanna like I don't wanna put your name. That's the worst and it you can do. No worries.

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But you said something that ...it was really interested and Hopefully, I get to quote. Right? You said

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the world was on your walls, talk about, could you talk about a place maybe where you walked into a room,

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it's something about a wall somewhere

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that you can look back and remember where you were at, Maybe you read meal or whatever.

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Let's see. Yeah. I put it on I'm actually if I look at her my house right now. So

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we have

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actually it's not on the walls. We actually brought like, a statue from the first place we lived, which is Deli, India.

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And I'm not sure if anyone's been there, but Belly,

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India is already kind of insane itself. Belly is probably one of the crazy cities there.

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And the quick story

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we

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have so most people, at most x happen in India have a driver and a cook and a maid, which, again, a whole story, I'm not sure if you guys have watched a white tiger

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butt. But we we ...like, Tiger is a it's on Netflix for Chopper and there's about a driver in India. Anyway, and so

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our driver our first driver,

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dropped this off at the long place. We were freaking out, and we ended up walking for a while because we didn't know what we're going.

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And ended up at this art store and just made a very kind of random situation fun,

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but

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but was really, really cool statue

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found a Rick, which is like their the taxes there and found her way back home.

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Of course, i with my husband's, but not as scary, but it was kind of a first few weeks there. We didn't know what we're doing. Our driver kind of left us

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And so we had the statue in the corner

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kind of reminding me of of the beginning of our adventures and kind of how

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we were just like, yeah. And of night you just going with it and praying that we made it out alive, and it it's just kind of a a funny story to to remember tell her phones.

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I can almost hear the sounds

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from that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. We're just walking on this random great belly, like, okay. Aid. We don't really know the language that well. So let's see how. Let's to see what we're gonna do. And we ended up buying this really cool saturated you that we've kept now for

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twelve years.

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Wow. Yes.

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Try what about you is there a specific

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with a scene? I I know what you mean, like a a a wall.

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That you will remember.

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Yeah. I I think his pictures. I mean, my my my two

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are actually my three kids. They're on a wall and my dog, my my one with two as a kid up in Oregon, and

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we had to get him on that wall. And yeah and I look back on that wall and these three pictures of these, and they're all adults now, but you look back and, oh, that was a great

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idea to to to catch that memory.

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You. They were probably two minutes before they were scrambling everything else.

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You probably fight with one another.

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But let me ask this because you've been in so many places.

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There's something about

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meal and sharing me old someone in hospitality. Could you just go into maybe an experience or a hospital

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hospital

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experience that you had someone,

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maybe you didn't have what we had, especially from the Western world, but showed you

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that they really cared about you by

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even having a meal with you and giving you what exact everything that they had..

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I love that question. That's a great question, Troy. So I act

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when we were in Bangalore,

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I had a wonderful

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woman who took care of

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cooking and and the house and just basically was just like my best friend. I just loved her. She was all there for me helping out, helping me kind share stuff.

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And

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I asked she ...she asked me before we we left to come over for dinner,

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which is not

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a people will usually do that with with people that work in the house.

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But I mean, I I I one hundred percent said i I'm coming over. There's no question.

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And I went to her her place, you know, very small one bedroom

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apartment.

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She's living with six of her relatives

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and, you know, she's she's basically, the the person

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making the money for the entire family

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and just the love that they showed me, she made this full on meal.

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It was probably

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one of the best evenings I had in India. It's just the ...it was amazing just how little they had how little they had.

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And she kept saying, you know I hope this is good. Like, and, you know, she had seen the way we live in in our lifestyle,

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and it was a very touching moment. And I know

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I know a lot of friends that have had those stories, especially in India. And so ...we'll

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real quick follow up questions that. Yeah. You ...you kinda talked about a little bit of a talk about how she made you feel and what ...even

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though her expectation was I've got

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I've gotta make this great deal for you, but

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because oftentimes, we're so busy in our lives, we miss people because

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we're just distracted.

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Alright. About how she made you feel she was president president with you, and it was kinda all about you.

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Present

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loved

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just ...I

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I think she we both felt appreciated. You know,

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we had kind of worked. She had worked in in my home for, you know, a year and a half. And I just felt like,

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at that that evening, it ...she kinda became like my older sister.

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It became very familiar.

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I mean, I was very sad leaving her. You know, It just became this relationship where you don't, realize that person's kinda of standing next to you.

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And helping you through this period of your life,

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you know, and and I really believe people come in your life at certain times for certain reasons.

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And she really was there for me during this time. Where I was we use the country,

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and she just made. She really took care of us. And so

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going there and eating with her family, was a blessing and she was super touch because it doesn't happen very often.

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Wow.

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Well, thank you so much.

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That was such a great question, Troy. I ...yeah.

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And then bringing up the whole being present sort of thing, and

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we're so distracted, you know, when we're traveling. It's easy to get distracted because they're trying to navigate different things and

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Thank for your insight.

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Great question. Yeah.

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John. Welcome up to the stage.

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And we you had a great question about

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as a foodie.

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How did that change from City the? If you went on ......yeah. I think go ahead and ask your question.

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Yeah. Definitely.. You thank thanks for being me out Megan. And I mean, I

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I'm wondering as a foodie, and also,

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I was born and raised the and came to America school and ended up staying here and that was what twenty seven years ago, and I love travel. And so everywhere I go food is almost like a marker or like, a bookmark of that country for me. So I wonder how whether food was important and how did that change

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from

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City video Country country.

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Yeah. Great question. Hi, John. How are you?

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I ...I didn't think get see malaysia. I'm so sad. I wish I I was still wanna go.

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It's the supposed book you wanna go. Alright. I'm john well, I.

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I will I would love to go, and you can show us around. We would love to go there.

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So for me, actually, I'm vegetarian, so that that was one layer to it. But,

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fortunately,

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in India,

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beginning vegetarian is probably the easiest thing

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And so I

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absolutely know issues there. That ...I mean,

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I don't know what percentage of the countries have sure

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And so also, it did help having

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a cook at home who was able to make all this amazing yummy stuff that my mom would make growing up.

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For Dubai,

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it was ...it's the why took go regular world city. So there was definitely tons of options.

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I mean,

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in terms of food, I really didn't like ...I I was able to adapt everyone. There was

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amazing options in each place went.

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Traveled to, even I felt like, there was always options for me. I don't ...I don't ever felt like there was, like, i'm lacking in any way.

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But husband it's me. So he enjoyed kind of

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a lot more ...than than I did. But,

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yeah, who wise, you would love India, You would go crazy.

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And Due dubai, again, is international

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place. And so there's just as options from everywhere. All Goodbye has amazing middle eastern food,

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vegetarian food vegan and food. And so I feel like there's

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so many options now for so many kinds of people,

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Favorite Is that favorite?

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Place said you're like, oh my gosh. I long for the food it's inside to somebody's cooking or

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a and dish that you get attached to the Ken. Oh my god. There's so many. So for so North Indian, South India are kind of, like, two different countries, like, in terms of just culture

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food and everything,

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I

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really really miss

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the the the woman who cooked for us, I really miss ...it's called Dawn,

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which is a very, very famous dish in South India. It's kind of like a crispy pancake

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with

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filled with, like, spicy vegetables,

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And then it has a a career you can dip it into in different kind of chat.

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Oh my god. It's so good. It's ...yeah.

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It that probably one of the favorites

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Yeah. Yeah. But the dawn are made, like I I've had goats of all over, like, all over the states and in many different places, but there's nothing like doses in South India.

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That's great because I I ...am relations

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multicultural, also ...Right. One of the ...is so ...there's a lot of south that Indian who move up I guess, in from the south southern the part of the country

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integrated to Malaysia. So we have a lot of sudden Indian food influence as well. Right? Right? We know that Yeah. And the second thing really quick that ...you I think you would appreciate is the Bomb based street food. Now you have to have a the stomach of like steel, basically.

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Video i handle it,

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but I I

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I I had been there enough time where myself i goes like, alright alright. I'm ready for this. But the Band street food,

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which is called jot,

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c h a a,

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is some of my favorite food.

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It's like,

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I even have described and many appetizer with, like, just

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It's just so good.

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And you can find it everywhere and the streets of,.

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So

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you almost have to break that. Right? Just like, go with it and they get your stomach get used to it, and then you can all the food on the streets. You you may have to, like, go through a few rounds of of i'm just something are kind of like,

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...right.

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Right. Exactly. But then once you get through it, I promise you if word it. It's so good. Thank you so much for sharing as the food yet. I absolutely enjoy hearing food stories.

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Yeah. Thank you again. Yes. That's.

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Yeah. Thank you for coming up. Oh, and susan, Yes. I could listen to talking about food all day long.

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Hi, Susan. How are you? Welcome.

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Hi, Megan Hi me. It's nice to

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to. I was gonna say nice to see you again but ...yeah.

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Basically, it's not the case. But for for fantastic, it is for. Exactly. So ...and I hate to burst the bubble and just talk with food because I'm really enjoying that well, But

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I wanted to tell you because earlier you were talking on me about your children, whether they would hates you when you moved in that type of thing. And literally, I was reading a book

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that related to that when I got noticed of this chat, and it's a book called

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ambitious by Shelley.

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Who was that? I a bmw Ceo. I don't know if you're familiar with a book.

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But

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she was on this track since she was in college. She wanted to be

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the Ceo of a major corporation, and so she was very driven and of course, once she had kids that involved a lot of moves,

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and most different them were domestic,

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and they were okay as their kids were younger. But once they started getting to the age, were they were was that pull of moves?

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She found out she had to move to Japan.

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It was entering seventh grade

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and was very resistant and upset about it, And so she had a talk with her has then how how are we gonna handle this? And, of course, they had a younger son too, and he would follow

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the older daughters. So if the oath older daughter was upset about the move, he would get up up too. And so they they took approach that they were gonna talk to her first. The the seventh grade daughter,

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and they kinda gave her the pitch that hey. You're moving to Japan. It is so safe there that you can write the subway by yourself. You can walk home by yourself, you know, the autonomy that so important to middle aged kids, and so they sold her on the idea.

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And then after that, they said, okay, all, we're gonna ask now

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is that you be the one to break the news to your younger brother?

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I thought that was so brilliant because, yeah Both sold on it. Not only was she sold on it, but she was very protective of her brother, and she wanted to be a good role model for him so she wanted to approach it very positively.

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And so the daughter went in and talked to the without the parents. And if few gonna say, he comes running out, so excited. Oh, we get to move to Japan.

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I love it. Yeah

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smart.

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I thought it was brilliant, and I wanted to share that with you because I thought well, That's why she's brilliant the Ceo of Ibm, but

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I wanted to share that story with you since you mentioned about your kids. This is genius, and I'm definitely keeping this in my back pocket, and I need to get that book because it's coming my kids are seven four, but whatever the seven year does, the four like, yes, whatever you want. You're my god. So, yeah. That's ...and also, by the way, seventh of the grade is, like, the worst time to ask kid to move. Right? Like middle school.

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And so that's that's genius that she did that. And, yeah, I think at the end of the day, it's it's how you frame it for these kids. Right? You know, Like, it's gonna be. It's an adventure, and I think as long as they know that the family is gonna be together. It's they feel that stability. They feel that excitement.

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Yeah. It turns out great. I think I think it's so good for Kids to if they get a chance live abroad or anywhere new, I think it's great.

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It's like a jedi mind trick.

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Right?

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But we ...which is much harder for middle for sure. I mean, I'm already ...my seventies year old is already, like, figuring stuff out. So ...yeah.

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Well, i me, I'm al I'm so sorry because I practiced for really long time, and I think my Chicago actually

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so I so

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so sorry about that because I ...it was very subtle me. Right? Oh don't know

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perfect. You know, I tell people late, because Rhymes with like mug. So got it. Okay.

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I I heard it one way, and then somebody said it one way, and then I think my brain just the like, let's just go for the longest. No worry. How.

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No

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hey. I get it all the time. No no. They you As long you can get tougher out. We're good to everyone calls me Tucker anyways. So I'll love it. I love it speaking of

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where can we learn more about your worth? Your podcast us new episodes tell hey.

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Oh on all podcast platform, guys or my website, which is tucker it out with dot com. Check it out. I have

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some really cool guests coming up, and, of course, I'll be on Fireside

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chatting up with tons of people ...Yeah.

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Getting the ball rolling, It's been a fun, and

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it's cool to talk to people all over the world. And so, yeah, I could not agree more. Your insight has been so valued. I loved hearing your story.

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Again, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in these sure to check me out here. Oh. Oh my god. I can't hear.

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You know what? My idea?.

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Oh,.

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Perfect. Perfect. When. I can't do them today.

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But, yes, fellow Fireside are here. He's got a great show. I love listening to everything that you do. I think you you just tease the most interesting thing set of people.

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Thank you, Megan This is so much fun and guest A live guest. I am so good that I got to give you this experience so

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Thank you.

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Thank you again, everybody for tuning in and why your world do with us here. By side. I'm your host

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