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Hello, everyone.

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Welcome to wider Worldview

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of podcast

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exploring the power of travel and how it can change the world.

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I'm your host, Megan Bank. I'm a marketer by day, a passionate travel photographer and journalist when I can fit it in and a lifelong winner always

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and I believe the power of travel can make the world a better place. Join us for conversations with entrepreneurs,

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educators, and explorers

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and get inspired to tap into travel and get outside your quote unquote comfort known.

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For our ninth episode today. I am so excited to insert introduce you follow Fireside,

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author,

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editor,

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speaker,

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educator,

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and founder,

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and Ceo of adventures by the book

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and Novel Network,

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Susan Best.

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Susan is

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she is an expensive background

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in marketing and events in the literally

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in the literary world has allowed her to create a very, very unique

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experiential travel company.

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And so we are going to be talking to her about that today.

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She's ......she's she's been featured on nbc's

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San Diego,

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wine dine travel magazine,

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k,

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San diego magazine, and others.

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So we are going to have seasons joining us in the meantime,

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we are

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just gonna be talking about different

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exponential learning

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A quick note before we start, if you think somebody in your network would like to join this chat, you can just

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hit the little hamburger button in the left hand corner.

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And tap the globe, and then you can share that link on any of your favorite Social channels.

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We definitely

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are

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very excited about this particular chat. I have known Susan actually met her on Fireside,

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and it was kind of kidnapped meant, like,

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Wow. You are a literary,

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you know, fish,

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and

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we

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also, I am a travel fish now, and so we've got that these two things would be pretty wonderful.

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So we're gonna just wait for season to join us,

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but we in the mean time.

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If anybody has any

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books that they have always wanted to, like, travel into

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I would love to hear them.

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So feel free to use the chat if you are familiar with the app, it's just that react button. If not, then you can hit the react button. In the bottom right hand corner,

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and then pick an emoji and it will kind of change the prompt for you.

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And it will say types of information.

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So if anybody has ever kind of been like,

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wow. I wish I could travel inside this book.

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Which one would it be?

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As we wait for Susan two join us

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in a few minutes.

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Susan possibly ...it may work if you

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I think, maybe i it out and come back in.

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I think maybe that

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may help with hopping up on stage.

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There you go. Hi, everybody.

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And I do want to let you know that we are definitely going to be opening in up

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on the floor

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for everybody

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for questions for the last five minutes. So ...but don't be shy. Please absolutely feel free to you that chat feature

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to join into the conversation. Hi, Susan. How are you?

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You're good. I think I can hear you. You can hear me.

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I can hear you. Oh,

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this. I'm I'm glad because it shows muted on my screen, and I was just about to curse loud, and I'm so glad did you that you could hear me I'm so sorry. I'm having trouble. All my buttons are. Oh. And so no worries on anything. I couldn't invite myself on stage. I couldn't mute myself. I can't share with my followers. So I was just

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not a problem. Thank you over having me.

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I am so thrilled that you're year

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aside, you know, all of my fancy.

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I just ...I'm so thrilled to have this conversation with you.

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You know, I I think it was ...I I immediately saw your bio, I think, when all of this started, and I was like, oh, experiential

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travel adventures by the book. Like, So I ...just at this stage, I was the kid who ...I brought books to all my brother ta games. I brought books on the airplane I brought books on road. I literally

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packed my back foliage, I think you can relate to soon from the research that I did from you. So but I used to ...I literally, in the car driving places in the dark,

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I ...when my reading light burned out, I would be holding my books up so that I could read by the light of the head and of the cardstock behind.

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So

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I was kind of fucking noticing. So I'm very excited to have you.

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Well meet to and thanks for having me and I think we're definitely kindred spears because my earliest memory of being interested in travel in books was

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Oh my gosh. I probably was six or seven years old, and I couldn't wait for my parents to get the Sunday newspaper because there was always like, a little magazine

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in the Denver post, and it was called empire magazine, I think it's similar to parade magazine now,

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and you could go through the magazine

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and they had these little

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index cards that you could pull out and send away for travel brochures for Australia and China and around the world. And I used to always all those out and fill them out and mail them. And then I was always definitely afraid I was gonna get caught and get trouble when they found out that it was just this little girl and instead of schedule.

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But I just wanna wanna look over and I said, someday, I'm gonna travel there and I'm gonna do that. And

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so it's like I'm living my dream.

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Oh, I I'm so excited. And I can't wait for you to tell us about adventures by the book, Not well not worth, all of your amazing

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organizations that you've founded.

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I actually, it's funny because I ...the last anecdote I will share is I ...my

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grandmother,

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my dad's died got my parents

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a subscription national geographic, when we were kids, and I just remember that they were ...they were, like,

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hundreds of them, and I just been poor through them as well.

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And, honestly, I just like to the pictures i

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much. So

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maybe that's for all that comes from.

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But susan for those of you out there who may not know. Can you share just a little bit about how adventures by the book kind of

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fell into your path as if come to learn and and how it came to be where you are right now.

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Sure. I'm happy to

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So I used to work in an independent bookstore and I was there director of marketing at advance, and I i ...you know, I organized all these author

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events at the bookstore, and I just noticed that this one size fits all approach

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just didn't ...it didn't work for me.

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But I kinda was watching the audience and the authors too, And I thought the authors would come through on their twenty city book tour.

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And half the time, they didn't even know what city they were in because they all started looking a like, right? I'm sitting in in front of the same audience, the same people different town.

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I thought there's gotta be a different way to do this to connect people more, you know,

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I like your color and curiosity with more color and more curiosity and more commitment

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So I I just had this idea,

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but, you know, of course, bookstore wasn't interested in doing that. They wanted to continue doing their thing.

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And it was driving me crazy. And then one time I met ...with

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Frances Maze, who is the author of under the Tuscan son, you know, the international best selling book as well as the film that was made in the same title.

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And I was talking to Francis in the green room, and I said, oh my gosh. I travel by curiously through you because I've never been to test and I always wanted to go.

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And if anyone has ever met her, she is the most gracious charming person you will ever mate. And then her first response to me is you should come over and visit me. And I told her I said, never say that to me because I am the girl that will jump on a plane and do it. So, you know, be careful what you offer.

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And I thought She was kinda just being polite, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought, wow.

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I wanna go over there. I bet her legions of fans would love to go over and hang out under the Tuscan consent with her too.

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And so I just had this idea, and I ...you know, I I talked to her throughout the event,

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and she said, yeah, I would totally do that. And she said, in fact, now this was March,

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and she says, I'm gonna be there in July. Now four or, five months away, and she said if you wanna come then,

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And oh my god. How am I gonna make that happen in four or five months? I mean, so I immediately quit my job

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and I started up adventures by the book. I had no idea. I knew how to put events together. I knew how to you know, connect with people and do all the things as I was passionate about it, but I had never run in, you know, my own company before. And I thought how am I gonna pull this off in five months and

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So I started sharing this idea with people. I said, i have this crazy idea.

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And what do you think of it? And before I knew it, I had ten people who said we'll go with you.

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And I said, well, it's in July. Yeah. We'll ...we'll do it. And I I didn't wanna take more than ten people

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because my concern is if it was a disaster,

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I didn't wanna have all these people that hated me.

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No I I can handle ten people hating me, but not those these horses of people.

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So I

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I contacted her. I said, remember when you offered, and I told you, I was gonna take you a haunted it. I said, here, I am. I'm coming in July, and

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So over the years, I had met several other authors who were Tuscan based. In fact, one who actually lived in Tuscan,

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and I contacted him. I said, I have this crazy idea in this what I'm gonna do.

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And

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what do you think? I said, could I can my group meet with you too because we wanna make it a literary tour, and he said, well, Absolutely. But who's gonna put your tour together?

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And I said, I have no. I do. I haven't found that far had. I just know I wanna make it happen. And I'm gonna make it happen. And he said, well, you know, my day job is I am a tuscan tour guide.

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And so I knew right then because I'm one of those people who believe that the universe

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works in the mysterious ways, and it was telling me, this is the right decision you're supposed to do this. You're meant to do it.

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He was amazing because he had connections to all these wineries and all these, you know, kind of off the beaten past places, which I like to travel. I mean, yes, I like to do the typical

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tourist things that most people do, but I really like to to get in there and meet the people and experience culture

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and the history and the food

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in ways that locals do, you know, not the tourists do, and he was able to do that for us. And in fact, he lives in Sienna. So if if you're familiar with the paleo horse races,

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you know, it's it's only ...it's

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it's run by the

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town of Sienna.

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And and it's very, serious, and they have all these different

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senior moment. I can't think Control,

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So they're like, districts, and they're all named after animals. Like, the ...I think he was in the caterpillar district.

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And so they all represented a horse in the race.

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And it was just the most amazing experience. He he gave us a custom behind the scenes tour of the Sienna museum.

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Took us ...took us all these local places how to do wine tasting.

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He connected us with other authors over their local authors one who is a radio

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host and she has her own Tv pro or her own radio of broadcast. So

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we connected and had dinner with her. It was one of the most fun nights ever.

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We went to an author's home who his wife is an artist,

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every renowned artist and she designs all his

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labels for his wine bottles. And so we ...and their home was so beautiful. They they bought this decapitated

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old almost like a mid castle

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and built it into this world class winery, and their home was so beautiful. It's featured and in, like, architecture magazine

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and we got to go to their home into a wine tasting. And so it was it was just the most remarkable experience ever, and that's how I got started.

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Wow.

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I could listen to tell stories all day long and I think

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it kind speaks to, you know, from listening to some of these travels that you have had.

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It seems like ...in and, you know, from how I understand that you put these tours together, you ask a lot of questions

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do a lot of research to understand how the tour experience will be different maybe from some of the other, like, typical undead mentioned,

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like, even more meaningful. And so it seems like

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definitely. People who go these tours are really definitely getting to experience something different. You've facilitated tours to Morocco and Pat,

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and Alaska and with actually

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fellow Fireside and audience member right now, lynn,

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Hi.

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I noticed him in they.

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And

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long like, just so many exotic places. And so

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my question for you is from a learning standpoint,

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you know, it seems like it's not even about the what. It's more about, like, the who

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and the context

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of what you know when you're traveling because I ...you know, and you can certainly tell more to our audience about this, but an author has such a unique ...you know, if they're gonna write a book. They they have this

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very visceral understanding of this place. And so

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can you tell us a little bit?

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Do you think that

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people who take these tours if you do notice any difference

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of the way that they're experiencing these travels in comparison to other more traditional types of travel

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do you see anything different in what they come away with? A deeper understanding of that culture remembering, such so and so forth?

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Absolutely. Because I'd been on both. I've been on these, you know, intimate tours, exclusive tours, and I've been on, you know, the larger group tours, the

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the cruise ships to Alaska or or or that type of thing

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and hands down

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hands down the intimate tours when every time, and I'll give you a prime example since you mentioned lynn and the audience and when we came back from Tuscan,

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Lynn had reached out to me on Facebook and said, would you ever consider an Alaska adventure by the book? And I thought well, yes. I am now and

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You know, he very graciously invited me up to Alaska now I had never mentioned him before,

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but this is the kind of people that I find most authors are they're just very down to Earth,

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engaging,

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really

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really cited it and interested in meeting new people and readers,

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people who have a lot of common interest. And so

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I I flew up to Alaska and met him, and we kinda sat around and

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he showed me around, and we talked about potential itunes.

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And so

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I don't know how many people in the audience have been to Alaska, but typically, most people go on a cruise ship because that's the way they know how to travel there. And I've done that before too. And I remember, you know, everybody wants to see a glacier in Alaska It's like, oh oh right. And so you get off the cruise ship and you ...you know, hundreds of people get on these buses,

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and they truck them over to Men Hall glacier, which is right there in juno.

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And hundreds of people get on the off the buses and you're surrounded by these big crowds and you get, ...you know, I don't know thirty minutes to wander around the glacier you're take pictures, get on the bus and get back

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on the cruise ship.

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And so that's exciting when you haven't done anything before, but then when we went on our alaska adventure with Lynn,

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he taught us what a real glacier experience was, and it was the most one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. And so we we got on bicycles

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And we wrote. I don't know how many miles through the Alaska rainforest,

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and it is so

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quiet

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just a profound silence that

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makes your heart sing. You know? I mean, you don't get that kind of silence in in everyday life.

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And this this beautiful

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ancient rainforest,

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and we're we're biking them we're biking. And at one point, we had to get off our bikes because the river was flowing and and it it

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it

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included some of the paths. So we had to ...to walk the west the rest of the way in,

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And as we turn this corner,

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in front of us is the most brilliant blue glacier I have ever seen in my life. There wasn't a soul around

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and Lynn had packed this wonderful

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picnic lunch, and we sat down at the foot of the glacier.

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With nobody around the silence, the roar of the the water,

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while we're eating this picnic lunch and I said, oh my god.

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These poor people that get off buses at men and hall glacier will never experience something dis beautiful and it never would happened without land ever.

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Wow. I can see that glacier. And and also, I'm just ...I was ...you know, as I was listening, I was like, okay. Yes. But oh my gosh. Sends amazing, bicycles,

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bicycles to go glacier. But, you know, for somebody who knows the area, I would imagine that that's kind of the beauty of it right? As you get to do things in in the most natural way possible

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as opposed to just kind of surface level of how everybody else that's it. Yeah. And I wow. I think you nailed it. If nobody else thinks of that, but a local because when he first mentioned bi to a glacier, I'm I'm such an idiot that I thought we're gonna be bi up a mountain. I am way out of shape. I can't do this,

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and he said, just trust me. And I learned very quickly

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Trust. He knows everything about Alaska and then some,

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and I trusted him implicitly. And and I wasn't let down once the entire tour. I mean, I could name experience after experience we've had because we've gone

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almost every year with a few exceptions every summer to Alaska with him, and it's been special and profound every single time, and he is, like, the cons

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host.

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You know, he's gracious. He's intelligent.

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He's well traveled. He's well red.

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He's warm and welcoming.

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And it's just a really special experience. And we stay in his home. I mean, what author

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who invites you, just a grip of strangers into their home to stay, and we have these intimate dinners every night after we'd go out exploring during the day, and we'd sit around his table

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And just talk about anything that popped up. We did readings from his book and

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and just had wonderful conversations

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and made lifelong friends.

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And this is not even the first time that I've heard a little bit about this amazing alaska and I'd unsure it me us

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I had had out here.

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Before i have my show, and I remember you timing in and talking about this just incredible experience and

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Oh my gosh. I I would love to go. I think, you know,

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it's it's just so interesting. It's like,

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it's kind of that ...you just

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travel as though not many people do. And so

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you know, thinking about. And then the other thing that I thought was super interesting and what you said, season is that

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you had no,

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idea

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what you were going to expect. And I think sometimes

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experiential travel

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they is a little bit intimidating to people because I like, oh, I don't ...you know, I don't maybe know what. I wanna if I wanna do that or if I can do that or if I know how to do that or I'm going to be, you know,

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feel like I'm put on the spot or something. And and so

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the other side of viewer background, I would very fascinated

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to learn

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that you are a facilitator for the San diego State University, Osha Institute,

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adventures, and I was like, okay. What is the ocean

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institute And what's notion foundation? And I learned ...that it is literally an for higher learning purely for the joy of learning. And I

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i can't believe that that is this.

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And so I was so curious to ask you

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you know, in in terms of ...and

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and they may not be to Alaska. They may be a little bit more,

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you know, localized

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tourists that you're doing these experiential

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travels. But did you ever

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encounter somebody who would maybe adverse to trying something new or, like, how did the mindset of those who went on these adventures or these experiential trips with you?

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How do you think they differ? Maybe from people who maybe wouldn't be predisposed to take in them.

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Well,

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you know, again, I I'm gonna have to

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resell an example from one of our african trips and Lynn will remember it. Well, is that, you know,

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where he lives is in a rainforest,

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So when we tell people to travel for the trip, we're very clear about expectations. We're staying in Lens home. It is not a five star resort. You're not gonna have a private home, a private room and a private bath.

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It is going to rain. It is going to rain. And you need to come prepared, not with, you know, ninety nine cent target pawn shows. You need to come with a really solid pawn show and it rain boots and and be prepared, and we're gonna go out in adventure,

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and that's part of the fun of it, and we had a travel

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one time who shall go nameless, and she was a lovely person.

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And, you know, I actually

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it's really important to me that travelers know what to expect. And so I would tell them

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via phone,

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and I had a made sign an agreement

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and then I would tell them via a email

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that this is what we're doing. So expect, you know, make sure you pack your reindeer gear, make sure you do this. Make sure you do that. And

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just she came on the trip and the first day it was raining, and she said, you know, I don't think that ...it's I'm gonna go out. It's raining, and we've done okay. You know, it's her trip. She's well to do whatever she wants and she stayed back and apparently, had a relaxing lovely day., and then the next day it was raining. And she said, you know,

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I don't think I'm gonna go out again, and I don't know if it was the third day,

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but I was starting to get worried because, you know, although I wanted her to have the experience she chose to have it with her trip.

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I was worried she was gonna come up there and just stay in his house every day, which

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worry, me. I wanted her to be able to go out there, and so we were trying to be very encouraging. But

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by the third night, she had had enough of the rain and said, you know what? Nobody told me was in rain,

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and I'm gonna leave the trip and go to a hotel, and she did. And that was the first time

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ever

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and sense that that has ever happened.

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And so

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you you do have to be ...you

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do have to be open to new experiences.

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And I find that people who are going

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on these kinda travels, especially just somewhere like Alaska,

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they're looking for adventure. They're looking for something different and interesting because let's let's be honest, Megan is you can go anywhere

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pretty inexpensive nowadays, you know, Costco,

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these ...inexpensive

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travels package together trip to, you know, Hawaii for a thousand dollars or whatever

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and so

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you can travel pretty much anywhere you want. And so in order to to do something different,

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and experience this. You have to be open to

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anything happening.

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Some of them most magical things happen

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unplanned.

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Absolutely.

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That is so interesting. And, you know, I am going to

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tap a little bit into. So I learned from a recent interview that you have talked about this sort of ...I think you and I so similar. I always joke that I'm Type eight plus.

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Perfection that I I love organizing. I love knowing what it's happening. I think I've possibly live in the future. Little too much, Maybe that's classified fun it's anxiety. But ...and

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angry, I was learning that you were ...you know, when you were deciding

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I believe it may have been to going on one of these adventures that you have talked about. You ...people

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are like, well, know, how did you decide do it? And you have this adventurous friend named Mary Duncan.

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Oh, you was me for

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And so, you know, as if you're a bunch of friends of seeing on your shoulders, so for those of us who

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I guess my question is for those of us who may not have, you know, an adventurous with Mary Duncan on her shoulder,

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and and those of us who are trying to learn how to be open and want to control everything. This is surely selfish because I I have this issue. I wanna learn how to would do this too.

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If you have any advice or overcoming that, like, very

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tiny mental state yet very large, and impactful mental state of thinking about something and then actually taking that lead.

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Yeah well, you know, you and I are definitely kindred spirits in so many respects because you know, that's that's an issue I have as well. I mean, I'm I'm kinda Ocd. I have to have everything meticulously planned. That's why event coordinating is such a thrill for me. I mean, I'm one of those people that that love, you know, advertising my spice racks and color coding my closets.

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Know that i I love that kind of stuff. And so organizing trips is is fun to me.

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In fact, when my kids move in their houses, you know, the first thing I do is volunteer., can I help you on pat and put everything away. ...Yeah. Absolutely we do it, mom. And and I just love it. That

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would I tell people is I am an adventurous spirit trapped in a chickens body,

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and so

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I really am. I want to do all these things.

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I'll be honest when When Lynn invited me up to Alaska, the first thing I thought is, oh my god. Bears. You know, I'm a city girl, and I'm afraid of bears and what is this gonna be like?

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But I think

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I think you have to just remind yourself

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that

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I don't know what the statistic is. Like, have you ever heard the that ninety percent of what you fear in life never happens.

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And so ...yeah.

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Yeah. But and so I I keep that in mind

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all the time, Megan. I mean, I really do because I was fearing a bear,

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and if I was so focused on seeing a bear and what was gonna happen, I was gonna get eaten by a

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I would have missed all of this these incredible

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opportunities.

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And so every time I have a fear or phobia or something that makes me a little hesitant about traveling or an experience.

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That's what I reminded myself up. Ninety percent of this that I'm worrying about is not gonna happen. And am I gonna miss out on a great opportunity

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because of a fear?

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And, you know, I don't know if that's helpful to people or not. It I I think what you need to do is find something that works for you and, you know, the Mary Duncan on my older as a thing, but the ninety percent rule is a thing for me too. And and what ...I mean, what do you do? Megan?

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That it ......You

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know, I think it's just like the ...I

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try to be logical because I am kind of a an odd duck where it I'm sort of a you unicorn I guess as they say. I have a creative brain, but then I also love data, analytics, analyzing things,

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logic.

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And so I think it

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it's harder to remember that ninety percent, but I

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I think the other thing in and not to use a terrible

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from our younger generation. But if ...you know, that ...are you familiar with the yellow Yo?

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Yes.

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So the it's a little bit of that. It's a little bit of the ninety percent statistical rule where, like, you know, I always remember, I think it's the quote where

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I went skydiving diving my husband took me sky that we went skydiving together

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in

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college and

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I think I was looking some things up, and I was trying not to get down the rabbit hole and it was like,

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you're more statistically likely to get into trouble on the way. To doing this action,

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than you are, you know, to actually have it happen while it's happening. So I think it's a little bit of logic. It's a little bit of all of that.

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That's a little bit of what I do, but it's so refreshing to hear this from somebody who I like

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the same mindset and, like, need to control things. So I was so curious

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I mean, you to you because I'll tell you, I would never jump out of a plane. So

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well, now my brother is like, well, hey, Would you do it again? Would you do another family guy i check I would like, it. Well, now that I'm older, a little bit more seasoned, I have unfortunately more news that I paid attention it's like I don't know. But

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Yeah. It's ...yeah. It's it's all in those things. So

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I wanna open it up in the last five minutes for questions. I know we have Debbie up here that will gets you in just one quick moment. Thank you, everybody so much for tuning in.

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Susan, I'm gonna put you on the phone just to click little bit, I have this section called three travel takes,

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and it really just meant to be this very quick, like, top of the mind, like, whatever comes to my single word answer sort of thing.

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So I'm gonna start.

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So will the first

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place that you traveled outside of your your quote unquote known.

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Well, you know,

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I would guess ...I'm not gonna say Alaska again, I will say,

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I can't antarctica.

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I'd love to go.

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Well, so then where was ...where have you traveled that was different from what you've expected?

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I would say, Eastern Europe, Poland.

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No.

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Yeah.

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Poland. I have not been. I would love to go.

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That's a good one. It was ...it was amazing. I mean, I expected, you know, Eastern Europe and and

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very,

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you know,

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communists like

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stark and

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strict, and it was so beautiful and that people were so lovely, and it was it was a magical experience.

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That's I I could talk all day about travel. Thank you And speaking of travel,

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what is the best thing that you have brought back from a whether it was an idea,

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a little object,

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a relationship, or recipe,

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a connection to another author,

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Yeah. Well, there's there's too many to dimension, but certainly, new friends are, you know, high on that list, but in terms of tangible items,

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I collect

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book ends,

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and so I tried to get a unique set of book and this

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at every place I go. And so when I went to Pat,

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I found these beautiful carved stone

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penguins.

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They were so stunning,

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and

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I bought a pair, and it was just

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I look at them every day, and and

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don't get tired of of seeing them on my shelf.

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I love that so much. I I love form and functions. So anything that is a little bit sentimental, but also functional,

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really just gets me jazz.

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So

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I I'm gonna have to think about something because I don't have anything consistent every back. I love that so much.

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So Debbie, thank you so much. I'm so sorry. I know you've been waiting up here, But before we get to the questions, I know Susan, you had mentioned that you're actually bringing back in and trips.

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And your new England fall foliage to is happening at the end of September plus, you have new human serious geared her business. You're on Fireside. Do you wanna just tell the audience just very quickly a little bit about that? Oh, sure. Thank you. Yeah. We had a

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New England fall foliage trip planned for last fall last October, And, of course, it was sideline because of Covid,

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but we decided not to cancel it. That to postpone it instead.

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And we are bringing that back live. I'm sorry About to sneeze.

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And it's gonna be so amazing. We're going to four different states from New Hampshire,

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Massachusetts

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and main.

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And gonna travel for eight days and nine nights just to tour through,

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new, England, you do the typical tour stuff, but we also have some really special

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private author events that are not accessible to the public that we're gonna we're gonna do and it's gonna be amazing. And I'm so excited that you know I was worried how many people would be interested in traveling post Covid, but, you know, the trip is almost full. So I'm very excited about that.

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So ...and, yeah. And if if you're interested, you know, you can visit our website at adventures by the book dot com because we do have ...I think two, maybe three spaces left on that trip. And then, yeah, as far as Fireside, we have an adventures by the book program, and we interview authors. We just do literary

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related things. So we have a series called author entrepreneurs,

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which is on Wednesday. We we try to think of writing Wednesdays, and we bring in authors or

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opportunities for

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us to learn about the business side of writing, you know, social media for authors or

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you know, granting media requests and interviews and that type of thing.

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And

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and then we started an ind by the book means business series with business authors to some of the leading business

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leaders in America who have books, were starting that series up on Fireside as well.

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Wow. It sounds like there are a lot of exciting things coming up. Lily says the fall foliage tour sounds amazing.

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I know Actually Kelly is in the audience. And she recently just did a false foliage tour

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up in that region that I was looking at her photos and it's ...I've always wanted to go That way, I cannot vote ...I I imagine it's going to be amazing.

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But you should enjoy us. In fact, the question I have in the fortune cookies is if you could travel a book, where would it be? So

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Let me ask you that question, Megan.

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Well,

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way you, man. This is way too many to name. I ...so

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I have to admit I read a lot of psychological fillers.

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Right.

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A lot of apocalyptic

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dystopian too

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Okay..

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I don't know that they would necessarily want to travel to an apocalyptic world. So

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I have to say,

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you know,

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growing up in the era of Harry Potter,

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I just ...it

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was just so ...it

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was really

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a a a an incredible experience. And, you know, I asked to say, I think that they did a really good job adapting the movies

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from the book, but I am ...I am that person who is always like, the book with the book was better. Like, you gotta read the book

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And

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I just ...but I do think that, you know,

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traveling through

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England and and in the castles and

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and things like that would be pretty no pun and magical.

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Yeah. I loved it so much. I actually, I just have heard about the hype and I went to the library to check it out, and they did not have the sorcerer stone, which is the first book.

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And I

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was in despair, I couldn't late that long because of other people's excitement, and I was in, you know, an Avid reader as we talked around the beginning. So I just started with the second one and

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Yeah. But what about what about you? I mean, obviously, you've gone through so many. And, again, and Debbie so sorry. I it looks like you maybe had to leave, but if anybody else has any questions and they wanna hop up here very quickly,

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and ask questions about

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adventures by the book, it's experience with tours and travel in general

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or maybe even

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talk about, you know, a favorite

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a book that you would love to quote unquote travel, please feels free. But, susan,

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before we wrap up, what what would yours ...or I guess, let's talk about future because you probably have done quite a few that you've wanted to to both more. Yeah. We actually had three in the works before Covid hit that we had to

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temporary

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delay, and I'm hoping eventually, we can bring them back, but sometimes,

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opportunities arise, they're kinda once in a lifetime opportunities and they don't present again. So I don't know if these will present again But,

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We had an international best selling author who lives in Australia

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who would offer due a tour with us. And since we've been to five continents,

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not

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Australia, I was really excited to do that one. And I'm hoping that can happen again. And then I was talking with

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renowned author Madeline and Miller, who wrote, like, fond of achilles and

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she

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she's a a Greek

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professor at ...no.

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Princeton somewhere.

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And we were talking about doing a Greek tour

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and we we had a lot of details worked out and then that got killed because the Covid. And and then, of course,

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we just celebrated our temp adventures by the book anniversary, and I remember telling myself that if I was lucky enough to be in business ten years later,

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from this Tuscan tour with Francis Maze, I was gonna go back to Tuscan, normally, I don't like repeating trips because the world's too big a place to repeat a

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But I said I wanna go back to Tuscan, and an opportunity presented itself

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Paula,

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who's another international best selling author,

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she contacted me and said, I have access to a private Tuscan,

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and this

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renowned storytellers

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we are gonna do a

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kind of a business retreat

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storytelling

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in Tuscan,

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and we were gonna have a private Italian shaft, and I contacted Frances Maze, and I said, oh my god. Could you come and join us and she said, yes.

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And we had this all planned out

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and then Covid hit. So,

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you know, but that was a ...a lifetime opportunity. I don't know if She'll ever get that tuscan villa again and, you know, if her schedule will open up again. So

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but those are kinda of

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always more as you.

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Yes.

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Absolutely. And, you know, we are both believers in science. So I feel like you know, good karma out there, and I'm been into the universe for you.

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Thank you and for you as well. Because I I think that was the reason we match because the karma. We are Kindred spirits. We're passionate about what we do. And

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and I just honored and

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Please to meet you and share this experience with you today.

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Well, thank you, Susan.

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It's been such a joy to have you on the show. And if people wanted to find out more about you, your work adventures by the book, the novel network or anything else where is the best place?.

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They can just go to our website at adventures by the book dot com, and it has all our information on there. You can contact us. You can find it out about our events

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we do virtual events. We do Fireside events. We do in person events in Southern California, and then, of course, our travels. So adventures by the book dot com, they can find out everything.

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Awesome. Well, thank you, Susan. This has been incredible.

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I

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cannot wait to plan more

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obsessively because I love.

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Well i you

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someday. I ...this is ...this is my prediction. We are gonna travel someday day and have a we can do a color and curiosity

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tour an adventure. Oh, i I would love that. And I see it when. Thank you, and I know I we talked about photography on my show, and that would be ...you know, such a joy to

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to do something like that. Well, thank you again. Thank you everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in and widening your world be here with us on Fireside.

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I'm your host, Megan.

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You can learn more about wider worldview view and traveling links to previous episodes over w w w dot color and curiosity dot com or follows us on social media at app color and

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curiosity.

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We'll see you back here next week on Fireside with another Californian.

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She's I know you're San diego.

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Bay area Native, Megan Who just launched a fashion brand based on her experience solo traveling. So if you have any questions in advance, you'd like death Megan,

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feel free to send them over via your social media. Again, you could follow us over at color

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and doctor.

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Thanks again. Have a wonderful evening, Happy Tuesday, everybody, and have a good night.

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Thank you, Megan, And thank you, everybody.

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