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Hello. Hello, everyone. Welcome

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come to wider worldview, a podcast exploring the power

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travel and how it contains the world. I'm your host magazine.

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I'm a marketer by day, a passionate travel, photographer and journalist, when I can fit it in,

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and a lifelong learner, always, and I believe the power of travel can make the world a better place.

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join us for conversations with entrepreneurs, educators, and explorers and get

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i just happen to travel and get outside of your comfort.

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known. Quote unquote.

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our eleventh episode today is gonna be so weird

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because we'll be chatting with fellow fireside.

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John Capo, aka Chocolate Johnny,

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a third generation taco tier of perfection chocolates in Rose Sydney,

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Australia, father, husband, entrepreneur,

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on online trail laser and my video,

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speaker founder our educator coach. I literally could keep going on.

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Welcome, John. How are you?

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Megan zinc as we say, how the bloody Hell are you?

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I was hoping you're were gonna say something along those lines because I just

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My Chicago accent can't stand up to your accent. So

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No what yeah.

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Yeah. You have it. Yeah. You know, you have the x and no I don't have the accent.

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I do. I probably do.

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Well, we are so thrilled to have you.

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you know, everybody has heard you here on Fireside, so I cannot wait to get in

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do it. We're gonna talk chocolate. We're gonna talk travel. It's gonna be awesome.

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a quick note before we start, if you have chocolate,

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or travel lovers in your social networks or your phone contacts,

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you think that they would like the chat. I encourage you to hit that little hamburger down in the left

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corner, tap the globe. You could share that link on having your favorite social.

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with your mom your group says. I think you want.

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It's

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spread the love, spread the chocolate love. Come on down.

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Yes. Spread that taco of love

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And so if you are just too excited to wait, we're gonna open it up for

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q and a at the end. But if you're just too excited, feel free to chime in with questions and

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comments using the chat, which is that down none lower right hand

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corner that react button, picking emoji, and then the principal will change, you can type into some

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text. But without further ado, let's just get

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started. So Done.

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You have a specialty chocolate shop in Sydney.

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They've also been featured in ink egg on ink

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dot com. Social media marketing world, you are a true multi hyphen here.

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But for those of you who are out there who may not know, can you

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care just a little bit about how you came to be the chocolates here.

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a founder of capital

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K media and

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has skyrocketed to Snapchat periscope to love status.

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Is that funny how we we just on Snapchat i'm like,

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Is that Megan z that's

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gotta be megan messaging me because I I love. I still love Snapchat. I'm like,

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Holy cow. She's so cool. I really like it even morning. Like, mean

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You know,

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We're gonna have to

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And then you say, i've badly. Have to go out. I love it.

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No talk.

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Yeah.

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Definitely.

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we're gonna have to talk a little bit about social media as well because I actually started my

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getting career in social media marketing before it was truly, like

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the thing that it is now. And so a lot of my early career was spent

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just people being, like, oh, what do you do all day do you play on Facebook all day, You get paid to do that.

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like, no. It's like hard. It's you don't get it.

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It's ...yeah. People

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think it's all fun and, you know bells and whistles and i you know, have pushed this button.

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So much work.

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Holy calf. They just knew how much work goes into doing

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you know, just a post and

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getting it right. So, you know, you can get the following and the

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income from it. Etcetera bit. Yeah.

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Good, everyone. My name is as Megan said, John Aka Chocolate Johnny,

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How did it all start? Well, where our companies

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eighty two years old. My my family started

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section chocolates here in Sydney Australia. We have come from a Greek

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origins, and I was born here in Australia, but my parents were Greek and my

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right uncle grandfather, they're all Greek and

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came to australia for a better life. As my mom and dad would say nice

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come with nothing. You know? I come australia with nothing. I said,, okay.

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and built ...well, I

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an empire because I think everyone has their own little empire

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could be a massive empire a small empire, and

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yeah. I I got involved in the family business. It it's

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it's another story how I actually, you know,

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the circumstances is around it, but, you know, I I I traveled

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the world with the University of South Wales while I was studying and

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unfortunately, I got a an

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disease that they couldn't discover for two years I and it was called b and

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah. My body really died.

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Wow.

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etcetera. And in turn my parents

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you wanted to take care of me though me back to

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all good health and, you know, I stopped studying because, you know,

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about to die and the last thing you wanna worry about, and then my parents had come in

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come into the business, and I said, alright. I always loved it. You know?

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there's nothing like waking up on a Saturday morning and your father

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say get up. Get out come and make peanut up brutal with me instead of going on a paper run that my friends use

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to do. And you know, I used to figure it was a terrible

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cooking paint brittle and caramel but that I realized how Unreal was when

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you watch people eat the the beautiful product that you made

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And eventually, Like, I worked in the family business and, you know, has

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just kept on I loved it and

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got a chance to travel the world as well, and you'll see my beautiful

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wife down there, Either got to meet her and

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Yeah. We I took over the business. I

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I had an older brother younger brother, and I said to my family, I said, look, I really wanna take this

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to the next level.

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which included a website, which included more machine were

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included building our bigger factory. And so they said, yep,

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you can take it and go for it and

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that's where I am right now, and then I know we'll get into all the other stuff a bit later on.

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we sure well, and, you know, I am going to just kind of do it

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quick tangent because this occurred to me, and this is something that we really like

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talk about here on wider worldview. But

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you know,

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in terms of you,

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looking at the way that things were and looking at the the way that you wanted

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things to be right? Because you you so ...you you grew you're following on

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social. I'm sure that people ...you know, the way that it was before, that wasn't

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as much of a problem thing because that has come around recently, but

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can you talk a little bit about how you maybe went from the brain space of

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just

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thinking about it, and then maybe, like,

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know, oh, well, are people gonna think that this is weird?

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wrong and then actually doing it because I think that

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so many people out there as a as lifelong on learning

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goes. It's hard for ...it's easy for people there's is

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kind of go into a rut. Right? Instead of doing something new. So can you talk a little bit about that?

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Yeah. It's a great great question. And and

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The thing that I I love that's

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happened to me doing the social media and

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and innovating and being an early doctor in tech

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is that I can teach other people around the world who are my age or

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younger who have doubt in their business or about to give up in their business. And

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you know,

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it it really is

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a passion of mine. I re I I love it. And so

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I

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Can ...you know, I've always been a bit of a tech head

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I I I I love technology. I was

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the kid that pulled things apart and put it back together again.

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And I enjoyed

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the text of ...look, I remember asking my dad. Can I have twenty five thousand dollars

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a website. And he said, what's a website? Is it the house? I said,

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Well, it's a like a house on the Internet. He said, where is it? I said that's in there.

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Internet dad. It's sort of it says, no. I'm not gonna give you twenty five grand, but

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we did get a website, Of course, it was only

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back then that was still, like, eight thousand or seven thousand dollars.

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I know had a passion for I alarm. I love that technology. I love the email I always

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love the fact that I had perfection chocolates. I got our trademark and

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i I I I

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I was passionate out about it. And then,, of course, came along social media or the

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Twitter came along I got on that straight away.

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once Twitter came along facebook came along, Snapchat came along music

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we came along kim along Instagram, Facebook,

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you name it. I got on ...I'm I know ...I'm on apps. People don't even know about.

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and I love the fact that I can take them

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and rip them apart, put them back together and again and show small business how

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to do it, how to

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become famous or become viral or

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get people coming into your store or get

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people onto your website, your emails. And, you know, with everything

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in in small business now and even every day,

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everyone's using social media. What's the most important thing? What's the real

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Mhmm.

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now is email this. Let's get everyone on your email. So

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that to me is is

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I love it. And I love

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I love using it, and Like, you know what?

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Megan, I didn't care what people thought

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I really ...I'm an overnight success that has been doing social maybe for fifteen years.

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That's my favorite

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I had a massive following.

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I have massive following on on vo

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I had a massive following on Snapchat. I mean, my snapchat were getting

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three and a half thousand views and people are, really. But

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when I realized and I started telling people when I was

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going to social media marketing world and speaking there and Denver, and

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and all these place people asking me I'll realize that they're in half

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thousand views was massive. I mean, one of my Snapchat got seven million views. So

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then they know I ...I loved

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live streaming. Get me in front of a, camera.

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get me in front of a microphone and get me ...just get me to push that button.

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and there was an app called media.

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Oh, yeah.

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And that was really the first live streaming up, but I couldn't use it.

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to some reason I I built a small following it was sort of glitchy

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and then periscope came along, which was the the the

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competitor, and they just totally wiped me a cat off the board and

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make a cat didn't get last. And so I kept

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I love paris. I just went all in I love showing people the sunrise the sunset said the

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affection chocolates. I love, you know, I was live streaming nearly every day.

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and I've built a really big following there to a point where if you looking on my Twitter,

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good

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one of i

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periscope at a hundred thousand

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live of viewers.

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hundred thousand lie.

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Wow. So what I mean

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that amazing.

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Yeah.

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like, no no Not not replay, but live. And I'm thinking

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Holy cow. This can really ...and know there was fifty thousand ten thousand upon

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Yeah. And then I had the one hundred and the two hundred. That was a k.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But then, you know, fast, and I

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I've been really blessed i've built the brand perfection troubles, but also built the brand chocolate

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johnny.

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Yes.

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with people like hearing about me and listening and watching me on

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all these platforms and ...yeah. And then I sorta of went. Well,

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let me help people around the world too.

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I love that. Well, and that's a perfect

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segue into our true topic here, which

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you know, I learned people here with chocolate, I think. So we gotta

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We gotta talk about Taco a little bit and, you know, hearing your background and

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the fact that you were able to study

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abroad for a little bit, and and it seems like

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you know, this ins sensational

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of ...I guess, obsession it was the best way to say is you just love learning and

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trying these stuff, and I couldn't resonate more with that because

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I was also kind of like the the

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computer person in my family, and I just love tinkering around and I had no time for me.

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nothing of that. Right. It's just wanted to try it.

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Yeah Yeah. We I don't read the Ikea manual. I just do it myself. And, hey,

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Yeah. Just figure it out until you learned it.

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figured at.

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it

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Yes. But so studying in branding you've had all these opportunities

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to travel, and I'm sure that, you know, having Australia as you're jumping off,

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point you've been to a lot of different places, but I have to ask

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where in the world aside from

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you know, perfection and chocolates, Of course. Where have you eaten the best chocolate?

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it wasn't Belgium.

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Papa. I wish i had some sound effects.

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I I have ...I mean, i've just gotta bring

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I'm on the road. So I think I think we bring up that one while somewhere anyway.

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is this one?

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Oh, yeah. Yep. Sorry..

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There you go. I found

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you didn't cut it.

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gosh. Where ...did you you asked where the best chocolate is right?

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what I've tasted

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that you eaten

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oh

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Yeah. And, you know, that we'll take perfection chocolates out of this.

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God. A

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equation. And we can we can do that.

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a great bloody question. Great question. Megan and I have eaten

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so much chocolate around the world, and

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I sort of wrote down the list of where I've been aware either and I have traveled and

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and she's from Montreal, Canada. So I'm very fortunate where we go

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to

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we got a mantra as much as we can, and then

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end up driving down in New York and stopping all through places, and I've gone to

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the West Coast and the east Coast, and I've been to Vancouver.

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I i I'd have to have a really good think about it.

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because I just really

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caught ring

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There's a guy Chris Harvey who's become a friend of mine online.

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and he makes a really good product.

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I really enjoyed that.

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Okay.

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there's some really good aussie manufacturers here in Australia.

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This a

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I remember being in Athens in January twenty nine,

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chain

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twenty nineteen before the pen pandemic. I kinda remember now. Yeah. Twenty nineteen.

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But

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I know. They're all the last years

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Yeah. Yeah.

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But I think twenty nineteen. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. January twenty nineteen,

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There were some little chocolate tears there.

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I it I I really don't.

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there's really look no one that I've been oh, wow. This is the amazing the bale. And oh, I was in

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hong Kong once. Yeah. I was in Hong Kong with

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I was invited in the hong I was in China

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to. I forgot to write down China. I've written a list down of all the places i've been never

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chocolate, but I remember being in Hong Kong, there was a really nice

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rich area, and I think it was called Mocha.

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in o okay

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I have a look at it. There was just box of just like

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six chocolates at cost fortune. But they were ...I remember that box here. They were really nice

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us

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But, yeah. No. I look on on

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I'm a pretty fair opal. I don't criticize. I don't

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I just love trying the product and deconstruct and thinking how can we

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use this taste.

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here in in that perfection.

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Absolutely,

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So it sounds like you're a lifelong learner of chocolate.

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Also,

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Yeah. You know? It's funny. I'm glad you

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said what you said before because I remember my grandfather died at a hundred and five.

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Wow.

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and unfortunately, he would have still stayed alive, but he tripped over and

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heard he

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Oh, no. I'm sorry.

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they took him to hospital, and they got an infection and died because of that.

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Anyway, he I remember saying to him ...he

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you lived in a little village in Greece, and it's funny Even and I from the same village, Her family's

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across the road from high family and

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I said damn, you know,, you know, so much. I mean, you you haven't traveled, but

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so many people come through the village you you're constantly learning and

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you know, you know how much you're really smart and he says I'll learn

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till the day I die.

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I said wait what he mean he says, even on my last breath,

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I'll still learn. He says don't stop learning.

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Yes.

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and I went wow.

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don't stop learning. And I I am I love it I.

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I love learning.

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and I love teaching, and I love

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teaching and learning. So

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Yeah. Oh, good.

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I believe that actually, Albert Einstein had

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was reported to have said once you stopped learning, you start dying,

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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So that so

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he was in great company. I mean, I I couldn't agree more, and that is

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sort of the ethos of this program and in this

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a platform and this

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podcast is to just

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show

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people that there's always something new to learn. There's always a new perspective to look at

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and to widen your worldview view, and and I believe that, you know,

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travel can really help build empathy because you start learning about things that you

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don't know and also just be an experiential learning tool. So

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Well, fake I I love that, and I I absolutely love that

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sentiment the, you know, the second you stop learning you.

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they're dying. Well, I have to bounce this out.

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with the question.

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where was the weirdest or worst chocolate? If there is such a thing that you

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Gosh. When it was the weirdest?

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and worst chocolate.

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or we're st.

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either one.

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was chocolate?

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Oh my god. You guys are gonna hate me.

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I'll bring it on. I bring it on.

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No. Is there any

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on Us Citizen is in listening.

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Yeah.

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You guys ...there's some particular products that you guys have that

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Yeah. I'm glad Kelly's laughing.

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because ......yeah. Okay.

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He's that.

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god. I wish I can skip this question. Well I can't with this being all of the audience.

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Yeah. Look some of it some of the American product that I've eaten

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Yeah. I don't I don't no Wonder when you guys try

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European chocolate when you try

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of the chocolate English chocolate. You think, wow. What are we eating? So

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Yeah, Unfortunately, I don't know where weirdest places, but

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definitely

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Yeah. The Us some of the Us chocolate is not the best.

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Sorry.

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We can handle it and is okay. And this

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it is totally okay. Well know we are constantly life on wearing as

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well, I'm gonna speak for all the talk of manufacturers. But now I can do that, but

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we just ...it keep getting better.

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well, the the other thing is there are some amazing chocolate tears in the Us as well.

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who have been trained professionally and

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who use good quality chocolate

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So.

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and good quality product. So

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that that ...I should be fair in saying that, you know, there's a couple

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places I was in San Francisco. Few years guy doing

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live stream

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seminar, a livestream conference.

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Was a speaker speaker bear I, of course, at night, I just walk around in

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Google where I can find chocolate, And there was a couple of really nice chocolate

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places. I found on small boutique. It was lovely.

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Oh, and speaking of, if

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if somebody out there was looking for a tip for where to find the best chocolate,

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is it a matter of looking up different

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unique identifier, like, in a story that makes it interesting is if they're

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ratings. Do you have any tips?

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You know, every every palette is different.

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megan, you know, that? We ...you know, I might love salted caramel when you

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I'll give it to you. You hate it. I might make a

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strawberry balsamic vinegar, your ganache truffle in white coffee and you're like,

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my god. This is dropped dead, Georgia. I love it and then someone else might hate it. So

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it really is finding your palate

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and what you want to

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what what your desires are. So, you know, the chocolate area you can make it

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spicy and you can make it

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people are now starting to put

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weird things in it.

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and and it's working. I mean, who ever thought Chili Chocolate would be famous.

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long time ago, I was making salted caramel

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thirty, forty, thirty years ago, we were own salted caramel.

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Wow.

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But then you had these famous dudes les guy, like, what his name chest on

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his or whatever he's name is and and this other guy

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Yeah.

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a guy that swear a lot oh my good ramsey, and then you get all these shifts and they're like,

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Hey. We're putting some salt in this camera.. I'm like,

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dudes, I've been doing that for years. Mate ...what's the big deal of just because you so

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like, super famous

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No The ...I I think I think what you do is Google just

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Google is amazing. I love Google, and, of course, I'd

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I I like Google reviews but I also don't trust them sometimes.

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Oh, sure. Yeah. And you shouldn't always because there have been studies out there that

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have shown that there are actually

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that's right.

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people leaving fake reviews out there because I actually worked for a company

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review trackers. So

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Yeah. Well let me let me tell you a great quick

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quick tip if you ever get a bad review

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and what some people can do to your review to that bad review to keep it up top.

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they can go in

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they just

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edit with one letter or a dot. They click edit finish

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and that goes back up top.

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Oh man.

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So

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Wow. Okay. I'm gonna have to book mark

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from my team.

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Yeah. Just is be careful. If you across

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getting the same one up bigger, and and Google won't do anything about it. So

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Sure.

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I don't really I lot reviews, but also don't trust them.

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So I I would definitely just

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find Google it

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and Go have a look at

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boutique places are small, you know,

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one man operation two main operation with a beautiful

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explain and you walk in there, you can really smell once you're walking and you smell chocolate.

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then, you know, you're in the right place. That's what I say.

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So I know we're on an

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a live podcast right now. But

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is there a way that you can describe what that chocolates

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smell is supposed to smell like,

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how about I described to you the way our new product

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because i a you you ask them the question what's some more product that

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so we created a

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a protocol called

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peanut, but

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salted caramel sandwich.

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Mhmm.

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Now that

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is a play on the peanut butter and jelly

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James same that you guys do.

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Correct.

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Yes. We ...yep. We have the period j.

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peanut up by a jam or jelly. You guys peanut butter it and jelly, isn't it?

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Yeah. We call it Bb and j, Peanut butter Deli.

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Okay. So your jelly is actually jam.

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Yeah. They

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anyway, I tried it

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Yeah.

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That's right. So I made it, and it didn't ...and it wasn't really good with with Jam.

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but it worked so well. So here's is the description.

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Are you ready?

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Yes. I'm ready bringing on.

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my wife's like my wife is he was definitely

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Oh my god. Please do not put on that bloody voice of yours. I've got this

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your voice actually shaking ahead. I can see it right there.

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I am ready

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Yeah. Okay.

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Oh, I'm excited.

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Okay.

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So we get l

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dark chocolate, and we will put a nice thin layer

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on on our trace.

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and then we get out peanut, but seek

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the beautiful peanut but i always sla it on

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and then we seal that with white chocolate.

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Once we've done that,

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we then put on our salted caramel

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and the salted caramel is we've cooked it for four hours.

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and it's beautiful. It's thick.

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and we just pulled that on and spread it.

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then we seal that

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with our milk chocolate.

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And then we

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break it out. We cool it up in the courtroom room, break it open.

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and when you break it and have a look at it, you see the three layers

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you say the peanut butter, the white chocolate, the caramel,

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And, honestly,

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you

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take a bite out of it.

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and it explodes in your mouth.

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with so many different tastes and flavors.

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that the dark chocolate helps the milk chocolate with a white

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chocolate, then the peanut butter has gonna a bit salty to it, then the cattle kicks in

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and it's all smooth and yummy mean, you just keep chewing and adjust.

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feels absolutely

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does the main rush of life,

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wow. And then it goes down your throat and you swallow and you think

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this

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was. I want some more and so you keep going for more

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my mother is eighty one years old, and she walks

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she leaves up the road, and she walks the church and every Sunday, she comes past and

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she says, oh hi. I just went to change what's him. She says you put a little bit of peanut butter

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Yeah.

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get in my bag please. She she ...it's her fire. She says,

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This is the best thing you've ever made, let alone that I've made

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and she absolutely loves. Yes. That's what you wanna

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when you walk into that shop or that store, you wanna just get that rush of, like,

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oh, my gosh. I can smell the chocolate they can't really the the

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brain cells go. I love it. I want more. I wanna buy it.

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So you're telling us that when we look for the best chocolate, if

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for traveling. We need to tap into our hearts.

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and and use our intuitive nose.

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Yeah. One hundred percent, I think

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people when you're passionate about something and you love something so much,

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it really comes out.

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in in when people come to your store or, and that's what we've

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you know, even and I have created a a a

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we don't have great customer service. We got great customer experience.

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Love it.

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And

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okay.

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I'm i'm ...know can't wait.

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she she's look thinking off. Sorry. Can you shout?

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I'm just

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I see I can see i've ...she just put on that face. I'm like,

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gosh. Yeah. Wait

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Where ...this is gray. We're gonna

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have to take this offline too because we dabble in, you know, with reviews. I mean, this is my

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full time job v checkers, but we really dabble customer success and customer

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experience. Says do you ship to the Us?

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Yeah. We do.

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we do. We ...we shipped to the Us and you gotta unfortunately with

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So

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covid, It takes a little bit longer, but if you go to our website,

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If you go to our website, we've turned off the international shipping

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But what I suggest people do is go into our website, perfection charge,

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megan until i put it up on the little fortune cookie.

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So

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Yeah. I am. I did put your your own web

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site can you get to perfection chocolates through your website?

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Yes. She can, but it's easy if you just put the fix

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and chocolates in the fortune cookie.

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Okay.

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you can change that

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I can do that.

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Sure.

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perfection chocolates dot com dot. So you go in there.

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we've turned off the international shipping, but

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all I need you to do is send me an email info perfection chocolates

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and say, hey, I heard you on the show. Love to get a ...I love

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caramel I love this or love that.

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tell me what you wanna buy, we'll set it all up.

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tell you how much it costs, and then you just

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we'll do a paypal or a stripe and, yeah, we ship it. So we do that a lot.

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So if you ever very interested, that'll be fantastic.

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Awesome.

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we appreciate it.

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it's gonna be a adult.

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Oh, yeah.

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up

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a dot com.

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There ...there's a a perfection

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sockets dot com.

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chocolates dot com, dot.

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that

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dot a. I had for slash. Sorry about that.

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Yeah. That's. No worries.

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Alright. Multi multitasking here. Well,

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So I like I said, everybody, we're gonna open this up for questions, but

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as we're waiting for people, if you have any questions about,

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travel chocolate,

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chocolate it while traveling. Please feel free to request to come up

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this stage or just submit your question through the chat. While we wait for that,

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John, I have a section for you called three travel takes, and these are just meant to be

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short little one word or one sentence answers.

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kind to put you the spot, but I think they we love

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sharing this insight with our audience.

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Megan zinc. I love it. I'm like,

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Man, I know getting sweaty he knows. He can she gonna ask me?

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Oh, they're all gonna be good. I I guarantee that you have some good answers.

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I know that I've ...they on I've heard shy before.

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So where was the first

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place, you traveled outside your quote unquote.

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known.

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So my first place out of Australia,

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or out of

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this you're known?

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like, literally anything that you had known before, and all of a sudden you're like, wow. This is

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different or new

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Yeah. Grace.

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loved it.

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Oh, yeah. Oh,

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I'm a screen so much.

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Yeah So.

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I I love it.

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I was looking at your post on Instagram, and I was like, oh,

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Oh,

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I need to go back. My husband's never been. I I wanna drag in there.

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Yeah. Even i, even I wanna retire there,

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So

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Oh, I don't blame here at all ...what a

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good place. You can you can open and boutique chocolate

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shop there too.

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Actually, we wanna open up a

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a resort line resort a

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a retreat

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a chocolate reservoir of.

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Yeah. So well, ideally, I mean, I'd love to open up

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one of my dreams is always been to go to, like, Costa Rica Garner,

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or Puerto Rico or something like that and

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south and open up a

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a chocolate resort.

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Oh,

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resort the retreat

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My gosh. You have supporters here.

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you have a supporter out the stage with you. I would absolutely be down for that.

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Cool.

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So where have you traveled that was different from what you expected?

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And where have I traveled it was different from what I expected?

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we have our China

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That's a good answer.

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John, I loved up.

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Do you wanna elaborate in, like, one sentence?

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Yep. I was contracted to build a

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multinational chocolate company and, you know, it's traveled there for about

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a year, six months, and it was absolutely just fantastic. The

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the food. I actually

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wasn't a tourist there. I actually lived there on and off. So when we went

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you know, they

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had ...they had an apartment for me and I stayed with the partners and

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just the I got to experience the food

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the real call jobs with families,

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it was phenomenal experience. I I've

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fell in love with China and I love the place.

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I love that so much.

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And the last one, where is the best thing that ...what is the best thing that you've brought back from a trip

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either an idea an objects

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Souvenir, a relationship, a recipe for chocolate maybe

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She's in the audience.

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Oh Eva, what a great answer

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I love that.

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that's great one I'm

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Very well said.

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Thank you.

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Well, thank you, John., welcome up to the

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stayed, do you have a question for John?

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I do. Thanks for having me up, Megan, Join, lovely Thank hear. You

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speaking, I wanna be on this ...like, what email list do I need to sign up for?

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for this chocolate resort, like increase

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like who

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really take my money. Do you need investor? It's like.

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as

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Either, Eva, did you hear them? Because we've already got clients

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we've already got a customers

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like, absolutely. No. I'm not even joking. I'm like

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way off. I'm like, I will email you url own dm you, whatever.

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I did up a real question for the chocolate.

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do you have anything you recommend for pairing like, food or drink with

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dark chocolate that you really like.

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That's. It's a great question. Do I have

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dark chocolate and pairing

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God. I wish I had a list, and I don't have a with me. Say you got have you've got me

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doctor. I mean, there's a lot of

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really nice wines in alcohol that go well with dark chocolate.

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And i know there's a lot of people who are using

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spirits now with dog chocolate.

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soon wise, people don't realize that

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the

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aspects were who founded job created Chocolate.

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used to cook with it quite often if you look at

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a lot of the

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Mexican.

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they use

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I they do, like, a chilly a chicken

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a chocolate chicken.

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Is it norway?

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Yeah. I I and and I've always wanted to make it, but

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there's a lot of people who use chocolate in foods, so

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I had that ...answer the question.

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I love that. And John,,

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you if you wanna send over any, I will be transcribing this interview to

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people can read it on color curiosity dot com. And if you wanted to include those we

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totally do that.

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I'm

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You can think you stitched me up.

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just for that, stitch up. I'm gonna definitely

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send you. Do you know what? That's not a bad idea. How about we do? We'll organize that. You know what? Megan? You know. Let's

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I love it.

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do that. Let's let's organize some of the peanut by caramel

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maybe we get this sort of like a bit of a giveaway.

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and

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Let's do that. Let

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chocolate giveaway away. I love that.

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Yeah. Let's trying give. You're gonna write it in there and put it all in the show notes or whatever.

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Perfect.

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But how about

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How about we definitely do a chocolate giveaway

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I'll send you some of the peanut butter and caramel, and you can do whatever you like with it. And

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I'm meant

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some ...I'm so sorry. But I mean, I wouldn't say no to talk it. I'm meant to say you're

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for food and paris.

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Oh, okay. Well let's do that.

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I'll do that as well, but I'll send you some chocolate too. How about that?

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Oh my gosh. I will not say no. But

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I want everybody. I want this to go on the record. I did not to you up for chocolate.

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Know?

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But

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No I love ...no you know what? Because if you're gonna ride it,

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okay.

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then I'd love you to taste and go. Okay. Wow. This thing is

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freaking amazing and

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Okay. Well, I thank you.

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Yeah. No. We'll we'll send you some stuff. I'll send you some stuff. How is that?

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no worries.

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I will not say no. Like I said, I please take my money. I will go on this

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chocolate retreat and go to the talk resort. I love this idea so much.

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So John, so a little birdie who lets

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chocolate Spoiler. It was you told me that you're finally starting your podcast

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the John Cava show. So you're gonna be interviewing

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entrepreneurs who come into your shop. Can you just tell us quickly a little bit about that before we wrap up?

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Yeah. I've been I've been very blessed.

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perfection chocolates is in a very lovely theory of Sydney, Australia.

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And I've had some

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very famous people from superstars down to, you know, a

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australian in superstars. And, you know,

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of had numerous people over the.

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John, you know, you should do a podcast. I mean, even said

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to. You know, you got a great voice and you speak really well and

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you full of energy, what just do a podcast and

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So we're i gonna do it on anyway?

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I started the John Cape or show. It hasn't been released, but I've done two interviews

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And I was very fortunate enough to interview my first guy that I ended interviewed guy call

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peter Over, and he is on sixty minutes Australia He was sorry.

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but he rigged the news is the national nine news radar. I mean,

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Wow.

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eight hundred thousand people watching. And he said, yeah, I'll be on your show and that there's

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time that we recorded. What we're doing this we do

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video and audio, and

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the time that I was doing it he says my just

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keep playing. Do not stop anything, and I'll help you with the uptake and

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how to ask this question. And I I'm getting I'm interviewing

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one of the best interviewers in the world, and he's then teaching me and we'd

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come friends as well. And I was just ...I blessed and I realized

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the amount of people that's come in of head

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we ...even I calculated, we were at camera, the capital

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australia just on holidays just to get out of this Covid right,

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and

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I realized that I had six prime ministers. I thought it was

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six or seven prime ministers come to perfection chocolates.

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Wow.

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I I couldn't believe it. I've I've had

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Yeah. I I couldn't believe that I've had seven pro when I walked past. I didn't realize that I've had

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seven prime ministers come into perfection. The pope has eaten my chocolate.

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Oh,

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Barbara str in Tom Cruise Tom Hanks Nicole Kid.

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Wow.

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you know Angela jolie it goes on and on and on

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and on the Natalie Portman, I mean, she's my

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she's a st wars, you know, legend

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and she comes in and I'm like go, i'm star junkie session Baron Co.

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he's walked past. He hasn't come in, but I've met him.

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So, yeah, it's we're very lucky. And so

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I think I'm gonna have a really good show I'm a bit nervous, but

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I've got eight episodes to record, and then the team said we're gonna start really

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and so, yeah. Be on the lookout for the John K show.

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I love that so much. And and as a

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segue to that, you know, John a big

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part of your life is social media, you're passionate about storytelling italian connected people,

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you're Facebook and Instagram snapchat periscope. Like you said,

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if it exists online, you're probably on it. But if people wanted to find out more about you and your work,

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is there any other place that they should check out?

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I love ...I do love in my

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my my top two ...thanks for laughing honey.

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my my top two

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definitely

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Instagram.

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I love Instagram. I love the Dm feature with Instagram. So I always ask people

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come on to Instagram of Because I can do video

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Can do audio, and I can type back to them either all.

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And I do love Tick talk, but just love of people watching out folks fix

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chocolates. And also, we've got, you know, a

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of chocolate Johnny dot com.

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Yes.

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and people can connect with me there. But if you wanna just hook up,

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have a chat. Let's let's get on on Instagram.

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And so oh, you know,

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you can if you're type in chocolate Johnny, I'm right next to guy I called Johnny Depp. I like

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Well, I'd I'm I'm dumb. I've done okay.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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for talk a lot. Yes. Yes.

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Well, that is good company to be in. Well, thank you so much, John. This was

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absolutely wonderful and there, I say delicious. We so

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truly enjoyed speaking with you. Thank you, everybody.

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for tuning in and widening your worldview with us here on Fireside. I'm your host megan thank,

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you can learn more about wider worldview and grappling links to our previous episodes over

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at w w w dot color and curiosity dot com.

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or follow some social media at color dot and dot curiosity.

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and we will see you back here next week.

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Thank you. Again, everybody has such a wonderful evening.

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Yeah.

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Thanks, Megan. Appreciate it.

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Thank you, John.

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Thank you. Thank you, everyone.

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